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Flame-Spitting Pissed!

If Bush doesn't address this there is something seriously wrong. *cough*CIC*cough* Does the MSM really think we rednecks staters don't notice this blatant spin?!?

(AP) - The U.S. military said Tuesday it is investigating the videotaped fatal shooting of a wounded man by a U.S. Marine in a mosque in Fallujah.

Investigating a battlefield death? Aahhh -- at the behest of NBC. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah -- I want NBC to make America's military decisions.

Iraqis condemned the act as "cowardice" and "something forbidden in Islam."

The claim that it is forbidden in Islam is utter bullshit: there is a section in the Qur'an outlining which prisoners of war one might keep as slaves, sell, or behead. Yes, unarmed prisoners. The question remains; which Iraqis are they talking to in Fallujah -- terrorists militant Islamists? I question the usefulness of the quote. [if not its timing...] The implications being 1] "Iraqis" ought to have a say in how we conduct our military ops, and 2] Islam ought to guide us. Both are utter nonsense.

Iraqi Interior Minister Falah Hassan al-Nagib said that while "killing a wounded person is rejected by us," the militants in Fallujah were responsible for their own brutal acts against Iraqis and foreigners, and were "killers and criminals."

What does Islam say about using a mosque as a ammo dump, attack position, torture chamber, hmmm? Does that fall under the rubric of the "sanctity of a mosque?" These Marines weren't entering this building for tourism -- someone had just been shooting at them from inside. Further illumination of the situation on the ground comes from the NBC puke "reporter" himself, Kevin Sites:

Sites reported that a Marine in the same unit had been killed a day earlier when he tended to the booby-trapped dead body of an insurgent.

Though he feels free to offer this bit of Monday-morning-quarterbacking:

Sites' report said the slain man didn't appear to be armed or threatening in any way, and there were no arms visible in the room.

I rather think the exploding corpse didn't appear to be armed either. Marines are brave -- not stoo-pud. Speaking of which;

NBC reported that the Marine seen shooting the wounded combatant had himself been shot in the face the day before, but quickly returned to duty.

I wonder what response "Mister" Sites would have to having been shot in the face. To be perfectly clear about this, these fighters have already removed themselves from coverage by the Geneva Conventions by fighting without benefit of uniform or organized state. Moreover;

The Third Geneva Convention, the section of the 1949 treaty that applies to prisoners of war, says "persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat (out of combat) by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely."

This fighter had not indicated any intention of surrender as did another man in the same room whom the Marines did not shoot. It is the norm for these fighters to play opossum and kill. He was not hors de combat. Lest we forget, this dead is one of the sick cowards responsible for this:

FALLUJAH — U.S. Marines on Sunday found the butchered body of a blond-haired Caucasian woman lying on a street in Fallujah. "It is a female ... missing all four appendages, with a slashed throat and disemboweled, she has been dead for a while but only in this location for a day or two,"

Is that "acceptable in Islam?" The dead fighter is also part of the group who killed this woman:

Tahsin Hassan:"Margaret lived with me in Iraq for 30 years. She dedicated her life to serving the Iraqi people...." Dublin-born Hasan was seized on 19 October while on her way to work at Care International, for which she was Iraq country director.

Now: you wanna run that by me again about how killing a prisoner "is forbidden in Islam?!?" Oh? You say, these aren't Islamic fighters -- or they are wrong Islamic fighters? Then why are you whining about them being killed first? In fact, why aren't you out there killing them before they kill more of your Iraqi fellow citizens, hmmm? I am appalled, though not surprised at the MSM attempting to Abu Garaib this "story." I am appalled at the Pentagon/Command treating this as though it had merit -- though I am willing to concede that there are many things which do not show on the video and of which I am unaware. I will be furious with the CIC if he does not address this in some way. I think his support of our troops is essential. Get offa the spot, Dubya.

1. Great post! I feel the same way when I heard this story. MSM focus on this because they have nothing. Nothing.

   Posted by  on  11/16/04  at  01:53 PM

2. I’ve seen the video. I think the kid may have overreacted, but then I wasn’t in his shoes. Obviously the incident should be subject to inquiry. And I do think you could make a point that it’s not in the best interests of OUR troops to send a signal that shooting an injured guy just because he’s moving is okay.

   All that said, if they railroad this kid I’ll be pissed.

   Posted by Dean Esmay  on  11/17/04  at  11:47 AM

3. Online petition supports Marine accused of shooting wounded Iraqi.
   Read the article in the Army Times at http://www.armytimes.com/print.php?f=1-292925-510832.php#TOPTOP

   or sign the petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/as123/petition.html

   Posted by  on  11/19/04  at  09:43 PM

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